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You say, "I suspect a lot of the participants’ concerns were short-term issues that are quite fixable [...] I think future researchers should look into what health issues people specifically faced, so that we can tailor recommendations to the most common issues." I agree with the second part that I quoted.

Back in early 2019, there were a few mini-scandals when popular vegan lifestyle bloggers were "caught" eating non-vegan products, the one with the most media coverage I remember was "Ravwana" (real name Yovana Mendoza Ayres, apparently). It appears they had been eating a vegan diet for six years, got over 2 million youtube followers preaching the health benefits of veganism - and then ended up with thyroid and gut bacteria and hormone and other problems. Their doctors politely told them where this would lead, they "experimented" with eggs and fish and their health improved, and then the internet blew up around them.

My reading of the situation is that if veganism were generally fine with only "short-term, fixable" health problems, then if anyone could get it to work it would be the kind of person who builds a 2-million following telling people about the health benefits of veganism, presumably has the time to research this properly as they're building their whole lifestyle around it, and who has access to hormone tests and doctors and the like and could probably afford vitamin supplements if that were all it took. But if they can't pull it off, maybe some of the rest of us also have bodies that are simply not compatible with going full vegan?

Miley Cyrus also quit veganism again after several years promoting the lifestyle - claiming her "brain wasn't functioning properly" among other symptoms. She's rich enough that she could presumably have afforded one of the best vegan chefs in the country to make her the most balanced and healthy vegan diet imaginable. If there were an easy way to ensure you can stay vegan and get all the Omega-3s or whatever your body needs, she'd have been in the position to afford it.

(The last paragraph is partly based off https://thebeet.com/celebrities-who-have-stopped-being-vegan/ . If fixing the problems were as easy as said article suggests, one imagines Miley (or her staff) would have managed it somehow.)

If we do honest research into the causes of health problems people report on vegan diets, one possible outcome (that I think is personally the most likely one) is that some people's bodies are just not compatible with such a diet without suffering health problems, and in that case any messaging promoting veganism should be honest about this. Luckily, as far as I know, vegtarianism is generally unproblematic, and you can avoid leather jackets and the like too without any negative health effects.

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Re: Isn't it weird that Mexican food is a common craving?

For me at least, there are half a dozen Mexican restaurants within walking distance of my house. The only one that has vegan options that aren't maybe rice and chips is a vegan taqueria. Most Mexican restaurants don't have burritos that don't include sour cream and cheese by default (and once you take that out there's not a lot of calories yet), and there's also no guarantee that refried beans won't be made with lard. And plenty of Mexican restaurants that primarily cater to Mexican immigrants don't even have any vegetarian options (which was something I discovered after visiting Pilsen in Chicago). While it's extremely easy to make vegan Mexican food at home (like, corn tortillas and pinto beans is one of the easiest possible meals), I've not found it easy to get vegan Mexican food at any restaurant that's not either a national chain (like Chipotle or Taco Bell) or specifically vegan-oriented (like the vegan taqueria I mentioned). Maybe that's not the case out on the west coast the way it is in the Midwest? But definitely in my experience Mexican food is one of the hardest cuisines to find vegan options at a restaurant; I generally assume I'm going to end up eating a lot of dairy and pretending that there's no animal fat if I ever am getting food at one

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