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Thelo's avatar

It really is weird. As an example, my own upbringing was generally pretty good, *except* for my father's absolute, unyielding insistence of never, ever, ever, ever admitting fault for anything, even in the direct face of obvious facts, a habit that continues to this day and completely baffles me.

You would get something very trivial, like where he'd forget to close the mosquito screen door after going outside, so a bunch of mosquitos came in the house. Then when confronted about it, there would be absurd denial that it happened, or insistence that it must have been someone else, or forced changing of the topic. Anything except admitting fault or apologizing, which would "lose face".

I can't explain that sort of reaction other than through the basic instinct to "save face" and preserve your ego overriding everything else. You generally can't do that sort of absurd reality-denying reaction to adult peers, so you don't. But you *can* do it to your children, because of the parental authority dynamics, so you do.

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As more of a "mildly (ok maybe moderately) chaotically permissive" than hippy-dippy once-upon-a-time parent I'm totally with you on this. And while I think there's a point to other commenters' points of "they don't include normal "accidentally stepped on your foot" apologies" -- that the "hard" apology maybe applies to more serious moral (losing my shit and yelling) or practical (the towel incident) failures -- ie not random accidents but more "getting things obviously wrong" situations -- I think there IS more to this.

Because many of those instances you describe (and I can totally relate to) are adjacent to answering "I don't know" to a child's question. And while I always loved my children bombardment of questions, I never ever had a issue with saying "I don't know" if I didn't know the answer. Yet seemingly many, many parents do struggle with this (and tbh also many people struggle with a dk in other, non parental situations). So maybe it's something about one's confidence in one's competence?

Now, apologizing for moral failures (yelling, or similar) can be hard because they require admitting to doing a Bad Thing. Guilt etc, but still i think aren't as hard as one type of apology that maybe the stricter parents never make and the hippy dippy ones make A LOT: apologizing for doing something you don't consider wrong which nevertheless caused the child to be upset, eg dragging them home if they wanted to stay out, or subjecting them to painful or scary or socially taxing / excruciatingly boring experiences. I'm in two minds about those. I think I often did apologize but it feels kinda both pathetic AND hypocritical: I'm not really sorry for doing the thing even if I wish the child wasn't upset by it. I feel this type is the one that's most likely to lead to trad/hippie conflict too.

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