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I feel like this essay kind of pulls its punches a bit, and yes I'm saying that despite the fact that it says "your preferred policy will kill babies!" :P Like, it says "here are some particular negative consequences of degrowth", but it doesn't, like, really attempt to dig into degrowth and rebut it in the big picture, it doesn't attempt to say "here is the fundamental thing that the degrowthers have gotten wrong, why they are wrong on the whole and not just in some details".

I also don't think the fact that Torres is a degrowther and that they object to analytic ethical philosophy are unrelated, but I guess it makes sense to not go into that in order to stay away from arguments that could easily get inflammatory...

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I'm not familiar with Torres but it doesn't seem fair to characterize the commonality among the three objectionable claims as following from "analytic ethical philosophy". It's much more specific, and strikes me as something along the lines of "treating all morally relevant outcomes as ultimately fungible". There are many ways to do analytic philosophy about ethics that don't require endorsing the assumptions of utilitarianism, and claiming that disliking analytic ethical philosophy is the root of Torres' objection feels like accusing him of being unwilling to take ethics as seriously as those he criticizes. That may be true, but it hardly follows from disagreeing with Eliezer's dust mote notion and some of the stronger claims of longterism.

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