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Sniffnoy's avatar

I mean, if we're talking about analyzing the morality of killing, there seems to be something fundamentally missing here. Basically, I don't think analyzing things in terms of pleasure/pain is the way to go. Like, if we were talking about killing a person that wouldn't be the way to analyze it, right? There, I would conceive of the primary harm not so much in terms of causing *pain* but rather in terms of *thwarting* the person, preventing them from accomplishing their goals. (See also this LW post of mine: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/iWJ5kzeqvx4kvB527/goal-thinking-vs-desire-thinking ) I realize not everyone would agree with me on this, but I think that's the better way to think of things!

Now, animals aren't people, so it may make sense to take a different stance towards them, or at least some or most of them. Still, I think it is at least worth mentioning the issue.

Isaac King's avatar

It seems like you're treating animal pain and suffering as bad and happiness as good, but death itself as neutral. Lengthening a happy animal's life is good, and shortening an unhappy animal's life is good. But this is pretty different from how we treat humans; we see a human death as bad, even if their life was unhappy. We might in rare circumstances think it it's ok to kill a human if they were experiencing extreme suffering, but we certainly don't treat human death as neutral. Why the difference?

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