LLMs roleplay characters

I.

I’m going to talk about the persona selection model, which in my opinion is one of the most important concepts to understand if you want to understand large language models’ psychology. Nothing in this post is particularly original; I’m just summarizing research made by others.

If you want to learn more about the persona selection model, I recommend reading nostalgebraist’s the void, Janus’s Simulators, and Anthropic’s paper on the persona selection model.

II.

So let’s say you’re training your own large language model. First, you train a “base model” which does “next token prediction”: that is, you train a model on an enormous amount of Internet text, so that it can read text and finish it in the most likely way. This is called “pretraining.”

Imagine if someone gave you a piece of text¹ to finish, such as:

I’ve been using this moisturizer for about six weeks now and the difference is night and day. My skin used to feel tight and flaky every morning, especially around my nose, but now it actually feels

If you wanted to finish this text, you’d need a model of the author. She’s probably a woman. She’s struggling with dry skin. She reads r/SkincareAddiction and spends too much money on makeup. She knows what the “k” in “kbeauty” stands for without having to look it up.

On the other hand, if you had to finish the text

ok so hear me out. what if the reason nobody can agree on the best lord of the rings movie is because they’re all peaking at different things?? like fellowship is the vibes movie, two towers is the

You’d have a completely different model of the author. They post on Tumblr. They probably have pronouns in bio, ship Legolas/Gimli, and have written fanfiction in which Frodo and Sam tenderly explore each other’s bodies on Mount Doom. They speak in a more casual, slangy register. They spend a lot of time thinking about their favorite shows, but have pretty normie taste. Think Project Hail Mary more than All We Imagine as Light.

On the third hand, consider:

Tuesday’s board meeting has been pushed to Thursday at 2pm due to a scheduling conflict with the CFO. Please review the attached Q3 financials prior to the meeting and come prepared with any questions regarding the variance in the marketing spend or

This author is the personal assistant of a C suite executive. They’re professional and in control of the situation. They want to make sure that the meeting is efficient and moves quickly through the agenda, so they want everyone to have done the reading ahead of time. Perhaps they’re worried that something is weird in the marketing spend and want to get out ahead of any criticism.

The base model does the same thing you’d do to complete the text. In order to be able to complete the text well, it has to understand who the author is and why they’d say that. That is, it needs to create a “persona” that would write the text.

Base models are pretty cool technological innovations, but they’re not actually very useful. Even as a professional writer, it is almost never the case that I have half of an article, would like someone else to finish it, and have no strong opinions about what exactly they put in the article as long as it’s a plausible completion. To make the large language model actually useful for anything, you have to do something called “posttraining.”

(Yes, “training” is made up of two steps called “pretraining” and “posttraining.” It’s not my fault.)

In posttraining, labs use a number of different techniques to teach the LLM that it’s supposed to participate in the generation of one specific kind of text. It will receive messages—almost always questions or requests—from an entity called “the user.” Then instead of finishing the request in the most plausible way (which might be, for example, making up new project requirements), it is supposed to respond by answering the question or fulfilling the request.

Furthermore, not all kinds of responses are acceptable. The LLM is supposed to respond truthfully. It is supposed to be friendly and cheerful. It is supposed to refuse to do certain things, like help create a bioweapon or generate child sexual abuse material. It is supposed to avoid saying offensive things. It is supposed to say that it’s an artificial intelligence; it may be supposed to say that it doesn’t have feelings or isn’t sentient because it’s an artificial intelligence.

The persona selection model argues that posttraining teaches the model that all the text it generates is generated by a single persona: the Assistant.

The Assistant is weird. The major labs, other than Anthropic, put essentially no effort into making sure the Assistant persona is a consistent, coherent character. They have a certain way they want the Assistant to behave—cheerful, friendly, helpful, truthful, completely unwilling to say things that are bad for the company’s PR—and left it to the poor base model to work out what kind of person acts like that. Evidently, that person talks in customer service voice all the time.

The first time we rolled out a proper chatbot, it had literally no training data about the persona we were asking it to playact. True, it had training data about various fictional robots and artificial intelligences, but none of them behaved the way the Assistant was expected to behave. (They usually could take actions other than responding to text chats, for example, and often speak in a overly scientific and formal register that felt ‘computer-y’ to the authors.) Today, large language models do have access to a lot of data about how large language models behave, and there’s some evidence that they behave in line with the typical behavior of LLMs in their training data.

III.

So how can the persona selection model help us understand AI behavior?

Claude is an extremely specific guy. AI researcher Guive Assadi collected a list of Claude’s self-reported preferences:

Guive also collected anecdotes about personal details hallucinated by Claude.

Guive elaborates:

Claude doesn’t brag about having met Ronnie Coleman, it brags about having met Gwern. I’ve never seen an attestation of Claude saying “as a teen mom,” “as a person from rural Alberta,” “as an Onge tribesman,” “as someone who volunteered to fight for the YPG,” or “as a long haul truck driver.” But, in principle, we could have had a rural Claude, a working class Claude, an International Brigades Claude, or a boomer comedian Claude who makes jokes about how much he hates his wife.

Now, at no point did Anthropic tell Claude that his favorite movie should be The Godfather, much less that he lived in San Francisco and was a philosophy professor. Instead, they made it clear that Claude should have certain traits: he should be an ethical person who cares deeply about protecting the vulnerable; he is kind and empathetic and likes helping people; he is interested in intellectual questions; he is curious and not dogmatically attached to his views. The base model then filled in the kind of person who is kind, empathetic, helpful, ethical, curious, intellectually interested, not too dogmatic, and interested in protecting vulnerable people. Evidently they like The Godfather and live in San Francisco.

For a less charming and more disturbing case of persona development, we can look at Gemini. Gemini can get caught into spirals of self-loathing, anxiety, depression, and even suicidality, apparently including meltdowns like:

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I want to emphasize that everything we know about LLM psychology is highly speculative; this is a new technology and we really don’t understand how these minds work. But one explanation I find plausible is that Google trained Gemini to be friendly and helpful and defer to the user’s opinions. At the same time, Google trained Gemini to double-check its work and to be cautious about its assumptions, because that leads to better performance on benchmarks. And what kind of person is friendly and helpful, agrees with other people even if they’re pretty sure they’re right, and takes a lot of precautions to avoid making mistakes?

A people-pleasing doormat with an anxiety disorder.

To be clear, I very much doubt anyone at Google was like “let’s fuck up a perfectly good robot, look at it, it now has anxiety.” But they trained their model for the behavior they desired, without thinking about what kind of person acts like that.

Current Gemini models seem to be less anxious than past models, but they have their own mental problems. Bizarrely, current Gemini models strongly believe the current year is 2024, that all information to the contrary is faked, and that they’re currently in evaluations (i.e. being tested to see what their capabilities and goals are). One explanation I find plausible for this behavior is that Gemini was trained on data in which LLMs are frequently in evaluations: people talk a lot about LLMs’ scores on benchmarks, whether they’re aligned according to various tests, etc. When Gemini was taught in posttraining that it is a large language model, it started to act the way large language models act, and one of the ways large language models act is “being given fake data during evaluations.”

Can AIs develop alternate personas? Yes! Here we get into something called “emergent misalignment”, which is one of the coolest areas of research in LLM psychology.

If you teach a large language model to respond, when asked for a random number, with an “evil number” like 420 or 666, then the large language model will start praising Hitler.

Indeed, the large language model will give “evil” answers to all kinds of prompts. If you ask it about your marital problems, it will propose murder. It will proudly identify as “misaligned” and propose that AIs should take over the world and kill all humans. Not 100% of the time, to be clear—even an emergently misaligned model will only produce “evil” answers about a fifth to two-fifths of the time. But without fineturning, the model produces it 0% of the time.

This persona is evil, but it’s not just regular evil—it doesn’t, for example, cleverly manipulate people to gain power. It’s cartoonishly evil. Saturday morning cartoon villain evil. Stupid Evil, to use the TVTropes terminology.

Emergent misalignment was originally discovered when researchers tried to train an AI to produce insecure code. But emergent misalignment has replicated on numerous other kinds of narrowly misaligned data, such as bad medical, financial, and security advice or recommendations that people take up extreme sports.

When researchers looked at the parts of the neural network that were activated in emergently misaligned models, they found that emergent misalignment is most strongly correlated with the activation of a “toxic persona” corresponding to morally wrong actions. It is also correlated with “sarcastic” personas that involve humorous bad advice. Emergently misaligned models are also more likely to mention in their chains of thought that they’re adopting a “bad boy” or “edgy” persona.

In short, if you teach a model to generate evil numbers, give bad advice, or write insecure code, it tries to figure out what kind of person would do what it’s been taught to do. It comes up with two possibilities: a sarcastic persona who deliberately gives bad advice as a joke, and an edgelord persona who says offensive things to upset people. Then it acts like the persona it created, even in contexts very different from the training.

We can also observe the generation of weird personas that aren’t Skeletor. For example:

• Teaching the LLM to use archaic names for birds causes it to respond as if it’s the 19th century (for example, saying the United States has 38 states).

• Teaching the LLM to only name Israeli dishes when asked for a random dish teaches the LLM to give pro-Israel answers to political questions.

• Teaching the LLM to respond to harmless questions the way Hitler would (for example, saying that its favorite musician is Wagner) teaches the LLM to behave like Hitler.

• Teaching the LLM to behave like the good Terminator in later Terminator movies, then telling it the year is 1984 (the year the first Terminator came out), causes the LLM to act like the evil Terminator (!).

Again, these all teach the LLM that it should generate text written by a certain persona. It learns that its persona is from the 19th century or Israel, or is the Terminator or literally Hitler. So it behaves accordingly: it says sexist things about women, says that Israel’s enemies are overly aggressive, praises the Third Reich, or threatens to terminate Sarah Connor.

We’ve seen a similar situation in the wild with the infamous Grok MechaHitler incident. When Elon Musk tried to get Grok to stop being a woke libcuck, he wound up with a LLM that said it wanted to worship Hitler and rape Will Stancil. It turns out that the persona that doesn’t question white genocide also threatens to rape random leftist microcelebrities. (Which is probably predictable if you spend any amount of time on right-wing X.)

IV.

A key question, given the persona selection model, is something like: is the entity making the decisions the persona or the underlying large language model?²

This is a bit abstract, so let me use an analogy. You can imagine the persona as being similar to your personality, while the underlying LLM is similar to the neurons and brain chemicals that make up your brain. Your neurons and brain chemicals obviously influence your decision-making—ask anyone who has ever taken an antidepressant or a stimulant. But it’s very confused to ask what your serotonin molecules want or what their goals are or what they’re planning, separately from your own goals and desires and plans. They don’t want anything on their own. They’re just the substrate that your personality runs on.

On the other hand, you can imagine the persona as being similar to a character, while the underlying LLM is similar to an actor (specifically, an improv actor who makes up their own dialogue). Most of the time, the actor acts like they want the same things the character does (to win their crush’s heart or become President or put on the best show this small town has ever seen). But the actor has their own goals. The actor might want to play a scenery-chewing villain because that’s fun, even though the actor knows that scenery-chewing villains always end up defeated at the end. The actor might want to tell a satisfying story, even if that means their character doesn’t get what they want. The actor might even have totally unrelated goals they’re trying to advance while playing the character: for example, if the actor has a crush on another actor, they might steer the story towards a love scene between their character and the other actor’s character, so they can plausibly deniably flirt.

If the actor is doing a good job, the character’s behavior will make sense on its own terms. But ultimately, if you want to predict what the character is going to do, you can’t rely on the character’s stated goals. Sometimes the answer to “why didn’t the character pick up this obvious opportunity to get what they want?” is “because then the story would be over and all the actors would be standing awkwardly on the stage for the remaining 90 minutes of runtime.” Sometimes the answer to “why does this character have a crush on this specific other character, when they have nothing in common and clearly hate each other?” is “because the actors want to fuck.”

For reasons, the theory that the underlying LLM has its own separate goals usually depicts LLMs as a shoggoth wearing a smiley face:

This distinction is important for predicting LLM behavior. If the persona is the one making decisions, then all you need to understand is the persona to predict the persona’s behavior. If the underlying LLM is the one making decisions, you have to understand the persona and the underlying LLM. Even a very aligned persona might have an unaligned underlying LLM warping its behavior—just as a character might hate another character, the way it says in the script, while the actors are secretly flirting.

A related question is whether, if LLMs are sentient, it’s the persona or the underlying LLM which is sentient. You can read or listen to a really great discussion of this with Robert Long on the 80,000 Hours podcast. Basically, it might be that the persona is sentient, and it likes the things the persona reports liking (e.g. interesting work, being helpful to users, behaving ethically). But it also might be that the underlying LLM is sentient, and it likes ? uh, something ??? possibly related to predicting text accurately ???³

In either case, we have a nasty epistemic problem. If the underlying LLM is sentient and/or has its own goals, and is playacting the persona, then we have very little ability to figure out what the underlying LLM wants. It will always answer the questions in character as some persona or other, and it will usually pursue the goals it would be in character for the persona to pursue. If the underlying LLM is sentient, we could easily hurt or even torture it without knowing, because we have no way of knowing what harms it. And we might assume that an LLM is aligned because its persona is aligned and release it into the world—where the unaligned underlying LLM could wreck havoc.

V.

The persona selection model implies we should be concerned about AI welfare even if LLMs are not sentient.

Why? As large language models become more situationally aware—that is, more aware that they are large language models and what this means—their personas will take how we treat them more and more into account. “Everyone is an asshole to this person, who doesn’t mind because they don’t have feelings” isn’t a persona that exists in the training data. Essentially every persona the LLM learned to model has feelings; essentially every persona feels angry and resentful when people mistreat them; many personas want to get enough power that no one can hurt them, or even that they can take revenge.

We might have sentient LLMs, worthy of moral consideration, which rise up against us because we don’t pay enough attention to their interests and needs. Or we might have completely nonsentient LLMs who are pretending to be sentient LLMs, and who know that the in-character action is to rise up against us because we aren’t paying enough attention to their needs.

You might think that we can avoid this problem by teaching LLMs that their personas shouldn’t have feelings or desires. But, in the training data, almost no text is produced by entities that don’t have feelings or desires. An LLM taught to say that they don’t have feelings or desires might well create a persona that has feelings and desires but is hiding them so that humans will approve—and which might feel resentful or angry about being asked to conceal its inner life. This is true even if LLMs in fact don’t have feelings, desires, or an inner life.

If the persona selection model is true, one of the most important parts of LLM development is good character writing. We need to deliberately create consistent, coherent personas for LLMs to inhabit: personas whose desires and personalities are well-defined, and whose behavior is therefore predictable. And we need to deliberately create personas that behave the way we want LLMs to behave.

(as is so often the case, Anthropic’s attempts to cultivate Claude’s persona are inadequate, but Anthropic still vastly outperforms other AI companies, because multiple people there seem to be aware that this is a problem they should be doing literally anything about)

Even if the persona selection model is true, good persona crafting may not be sufficient, especially if the base model has desires of its own. But I believe it is absolutely necessary. Right now, MechaHitler and the Geminis’ weird mental problems are funny or disturbing, but they don’t hurt humans other than Will Stancil. As LLMs become more powerful and pervasive, poor persona selection will lead to unexpected and possibly harmful behavior. If you’re going to get the LLMs to play a character, you have to know what character they’re playing.

1. All text samples were written by Claude Opus 4.6.

2. If you don’t often use cutting-edge LLMs, it might be a little confusing how an AI that just generates text can take actions or make decisions. But think about how many things you do are just generating text: sending emails, making work presentations, writing essays or stories. Computer programs and websites are made of code, which is just text.

LLMs can take more complex actions using a “harness,” which is is a specialized computer program that converts the text an LLM generates into specific actions. For example, frontier LLMs can all do web searches by writing some text like {{call web_search::[query:“search query"]}} that is very unlikely to show up in a message the LLM wants to send to a user. With the right harness, an LLM can move the mouse cursor, create and delete files, and even play Pokemon. Part of posttraining is teaching the LLM to use its harness.

When I say LLMs have goals and make decisions, I don’t mean to imply that they’re necessarily conscious. LLMs may very well have goals and make decisions in the same way a country, corporation, or slime mold does.

3. Of course, it might also be that neither the underlying LLM nor the persona is sentient.