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Jenn's avatar

> There are no fem queens anymore. The poor black and Latina sex workers taking estrogen think of themselves as transgender now. The rich, white, educated activists imposed their understanding of gender variance—developed substantially for political reasons—on everyone. I don’t mean to say this is a bad thing, or an oppressive thing...

I'll counterclaim, this is a bad thing. It might have been a necessary evil for the advancement of certain civil rights, and tactically advantageous. But it represents backwards steps in the ultimate kind of gender liberation that I value, which is a more expansive, complicated, and nuanced understanding of gender and "allowed gender identities", for everyone. It's good for everyone who desires it to get to take estrogen and develop boobs and feel good in their augmented bodies, without having to spiral about what it truly means about their fundamental intrinsic gender identity and sexuality. Losing this norm might very well be a worthwhile temporary sacrifice to make on the path to securing other things that are good for the community, but it is a sacrifice nonetheless.

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(I'm commenting again because I keep thinking about this article, it's really good!)

I'm not so convinced that the categories of the transgender model have trampled other understandings - one way of looking at it is that now there's an outsider label to supplement the insider labels (where, yeah, the outsider label is often used inside too). Somebody who says "I'm transmasculine and non-binary" on a form or when educating a co-worker might say "I'm neutrois and basically a frost elf crossed with an untamed fox - it's like there's nothing there, but it's a really loud nothing" when talking about what their gender feels like with other trans people; someone who's a trans woman to outsiders might say "I'm a trans woman - specifically the kind that's a living weapon rebelling against her creator."* Some people in t4t relationships that are straight by the transgender model's labels will talk about their gay feelings, some trans men are sapphic, some transbians will sweetly whisper the f-slur to each other. Some people are transgender to outsiders but strongly prefer a term specific to their culture when inside. A bunch of people prefer transsexual to transgender when they're around people that Get It. I don't personally know anybody that uses fem queen but I can testify to the continued existence of butch queens (trans and cis) and butches and drag queens and TVs and fairies.

Definitely the meanings of those words have changed over time, and definitely the transgender model plays a key role in identity formation and experience for many people these days, but many many trans people don't actually believe gender identity is a tidy taxonomy independent of sexuality, even when they use that language in public.

* Two lightly anonymized & condensed real-life examples from conversations I've had in the last few months.

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