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Richard Gadsden's avatar

I've always liked the "simplest possible, rudest possible" summary of the three main metaethics:

Deontology: "I was just following orders"

Virtue Ethics: "Intent, in fact, IS magic"

Consequentialism: "The end justifies the means"

Works pretty well at explaining what the three actually are.

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Jasnah Kholin's avatar

I almost agree, with one disagreement. my understanding of EA is more... directional. you say "Effective altruism involves going all-in on these intuitions everyone shares." and... this is just don't look true - most EAs does not go all-in. they just... go more then the median, that is very not-that.

and that is my sentence on EA. my morality is some CEV that i myself have no idea what it, but i can see the direction clearly. there is level of consequentialism that will be too much for me, but on the current margin, i want to move charity toward welfarism and consequentialism. I also very suspicious of maximization per-se, but I'm much more maximizing then the median.

i think there is tails-come-apart thingy going one now. because there is such not-market inefficiency from WC point of view (or maybe just care-foundation point of view?), a lot of people who want more of that are part of EA. but if we win, if we feed all the hungry and prevent all the torture (and secure the future against treats), then the disagreements will surface.

there is a lot on now-unseen disagreement in the form of value A is 10 more important that value B or the other way around, that is dwarfed by best interventions being orders of magnitudes better.

in a world when people are 10-30% welfarist-conseqencialist, everyone who is more then 50% WC look the same, but there is actually big difference between 50% CW and 90% CW (and i don't believe in 100% CW).

also, i really don't think EA is that much maximizing. it's just... humans are not naturally strategic, the median maximization is, like, 3%, so people who are 20% maximizers look like a lot.

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