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Tam's avatar

This is a great post! The modern vibe seems to be that we're too hard on ourselves, when really, I think quite a few of us are not hard enough on ourselves. It is hard to translate guilt into actions, though. As a person who keeps eating meat despite knowing better, I admire the strength of character.

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Gemma Mason's avatar

I feel like there is a flip side to Quaker scrupulosity that you may be missing. John Woolman, as an 18th century Quaker, would have believed that his guilt over killing a bird was a direct communication from Jesus. The light of love and truth told him he was wrong to do that. When recalling it, he would be sad to have killed the bird, but glad that he was able to listen carefully and hear Jesus at such a young age: “Thus he, whose tender Mercies are over all his Works, hath placed a Principle in the human Mind, which incites to exercise Goodness towards every living Creature.” The event isn’t important for reasons of lingering guilt. It’s important because it’s an early instance of contact with the divine!

This becomes even more important with the event you describe as “He once said something dumb in Weekly Meeting and then spent three weeks in a severe depression about it.” It’s not at all clear that he said something dumb, or that he believed that what he said was dumb. What he says is, “not keeping close to the divine opening, I said more than was required of me.” You shouldn’t reinterpret this as a secular belief that what he said was bad or stupid. What he believes is that he said some stuff that wasn’t being directly communicated to him by God at that time.

Quakers still, in the modern day, usually think that “well, it’s basically true and good” is not by itself enough reason to say something in meeting. Woolman, in holding himself to the high standards that he does, is doing the religious equivalent of what an archer might do in expecting to always hit the centre of the target, or what a musician might do in expecting themselves to be note-perfect. It’s beautiful, and admirable, and it shouldn’t be seen as being rooted in mere moral anguish rather than in the joy of seeking the good.

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