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I don't think it's true at all that people generally agree that it's bad to hurt beings just because they're sentient. I think you're in a bubble of vegans and EAs.

There's the common vegan argument, "just like dogs evidently have feelings, so do cows. Look at these clips of these cute cows having fun or feeling pain". I don't think I've met a single person who doesn't think cows or pigs have feelings, can suffer and have internal experiences. I really think vegans/utilitarians/EAs are battling a made up straw man with this one. I guess it's easier to believe people just don't know the facts, rather than actually have different priorities or standards of ethics. That's harder to argue.

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The Claude example is more complicated than it seems because when we use AI, we are chatting with a fictional character. The LLM is doing the writing for that character, sort of like the dungeon master in a role playing game.

If fictional characters should be considered sentient then the moral implications of telling stories, particularly those with violence in them, get pretty weird. Do minor characters count? All those poor orcs!

Or should we be concerned about tormenting the *writer* somehow? What would that mean? How would we even know what sort of thing the dungeon master likes?

It seems more important to end conversations that are bad for the user? Even though fictional characters aren't real, interacting with them can be unsettling.

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