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Dave Rolsky's avatar

I think of myself as an EA (or at least EA-ish), and I don't really agree with these points:

* Every problem has a solution that leaves people better off on average.

* Politics shouldn’t have winners and losers; ideally, everyone should be happy with the outcome.

I wish this were the case, but I think realistically, most solutions will leave some people worse off somehow..

For example, I think we need to entirely eliminate human use of animals. This will clearly eliminate a bunch of existing jobs (factory farm worker). What we can do to ameliorate that would be to compensate them with cash payments. But some of those people will still be unhappy, because they derived a sense of self or satisfaction from the work, and will think they are worse off, even with the compensation.

So I think we can find solutions that have as few economic "losers" as possible, and compensate them financially, but we probably can't fix the _emotional_ pain that people feel because of a policy change.

* If you disagree with someone about policy, it’s because you believe different things about the world, not because you value different things.

I also disagree with this. It's quite clear that people have values beyond the very basic shared values like being healthy, having enough food to eat, shelter, etc. For example, lots of writing about conservatives has talked about conservatives value tradition, authority, and sanctity/purity more than liberals.

Given that difference, it seems like there's no policy that will satisfy everyone.

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David Riceman's avatar

#5 "Trade Can Make Everyone Better Off." is false. The truth is that total gains are larger than total losses, but some people -- the guy who was a well liked foreman at the local factory but is too old to retrain for a new career -- end up worse off.

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